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Bolt disassembly in field conditions #1271549103/13/18 | |
D Dogger Campfire Regular | |
OP Dogger Campfire Regular D Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,369 | "There I was, way out in the middle of nowhere, hunting X, when I had to field strip my bolt to get my hunting rifle in operation again... Dang good thing my rifle is a Y, because you sure couldn't do it with a Z. That's why my Y is superior to all others, and that's why Z sucks... it can't hang when the chips are down and the conditions are tough. " Which begs the question: which rifles have bolts that can be stripped in the field to get them into the hunt again, and which must wait til you get home? What spare parts do you carry... just in case? |
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P pabucktail Campfire Tracker | |
pabucktail Campfire Tracker P Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,390 Likes: 22 | Off the top of my head: Models 70 and 77, and the kimbers. A very good option to have. I've had to do it and have seen others need to as well. |
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jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana | |
jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,684 Likes: 15 | well, not a 700 or an A bolt...or a Weatherby Last edited by jorgeI; 03/13/18. A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…” |
Re: Bolt disassembly in field conditions Dogger#1271560303/13/18 | |
Jim in Idaho Campfire Ranger | |
Jim in Idaho Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 28,460 Likes: 14 | Model 77 needs a small strong pin or finishing nail to put through the co*cking piece, a Model 700 needs a dime and a strong bootlace. The 77 is easiest to insert the pin, you just rotate the co*cking piece backwards a little bit, you'll need a strong bootlace or hard shelf of some kind to pull back the 700 striker far enough to insert the dime. So you'd need at least a nail or pin of the right size in your kit for the 77 and a dime for the 700. Btw, once you get the 700 bolt disassembled don't knock that dime out of place. Neither of them is as easy as the classic 3 position safety rifles like a Mauser 98 (unconverted to two position type), Model 70 or the new MRC 1999. If you know what you're doing you can take a Mauser bolt completely apart in the field. In fact, that little metal stud with the hole in it in the stocks of German K98's is there to allow you to compress the firing pin spring to remove the striker, safety and spring. Couldn't tell you about any other models as I only have experience disassembling those mentioned. Gunnery, gunnery, gunnery. |
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M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna | |
Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,335 Likes: 74 | CZ 550's have a button on the left side of the bolt shroud. Press it with the bolt co*cked, then remove the bolt, and the shroud/firing pin assembly can be unscrewed, just like a rifle with a M70-type 3-position safety in the middle position. “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” |
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ChetAF Campfire Regular | |
ChetAF Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,594 | In addition to the others already mentioned, Blaser R8's have a very 'field strippable' bolt assembly. In fact, you can easily acquire a second complete bolt assembly and swap it on in about three seconds if you have a breakdown. The first great thing is to find yourself and for that you need solitude and contemplation. I can tell you deliverance will not come from the rushing noisy centers of civilization. It will come from the lonely places. Fridtjof Nansen |
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R rovert Campfire Regular | |
rovert Campfire Regular R Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 772 | I like the CZ mechanism. It's pretty slick. I like the 70 as well. I've taken a 700 bolt apart a few times. I don't remember needing a dime, just a bootlace/loop of paracord. It's been a couple years, though. T3's are easy enough. |
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E EZEARL Campfire Tracker | |
EZEARL Campfire Tracker E Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,219 | Howa. Easiest I know of. Twist off and twist on. Just guessing that the Nosler rifle will do the same? Last edited by EZEARL; 03/13/18. |
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Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,980 C Castle_Rock Campfire Regular | |
Castle_Rock Campfire Regular C Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,980 | Originally Posted by EZEARL Howa. Easiest I know of. Twist off and twist on. Just guessing that the Nosler rifle will do the same? That was copied from Sako, good system |
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Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 1,885 Likes: 1 1 1Akshooter Campfire Regular | |
1Akshooter Campfire Regular 1 Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 1,885 Likes: 1 | All of my Mod. 70's easily field strip with out tools and the superb old style trigger can be rinsed off in a creek. The LAW .300 Winny strips easier then the Mod. 70, like taking a bayonet off, kinda. My old Springfield 03A3 strips, the co*cking knob helps with that, besides giving a quick second hit on a bad primer. Most of the time one does not need a bolt that field strips with out tools. Reason is so much hunting in America is done where one leaves from a vehicle and returns to the vehicle later in the day. Also, if a guys bolt messes up while he is sitting in a stand waiting for a deer to come into a feeder, it is time for a new rifle! Many of the hunts in Alaska are far from the vehicle and hunters may not see it for days. So it is good to have a bolt that field strips with out tools and a simple, rugged and reliable trigger that is not hidden away in a "housing". I would also think a globe trotting hunter would want a "simple" bolt and trigger. I think Phil Shoemaker wrote a piece on triggers freezing up in the field, not sure if he addressed field stripping bolts. I am sure, him and many other long time Alaskan guides have seen it all when it comes to rifle problems. In my mediocre 53 year Alaskan hunting career, most of the rifle issues I have seen were caused by the shooter experiencing a huge adrenalin dump. For some reason it makes the bolt hard to manipulate correctly! Other then that I have heard from a few friends who had trigger issues with one of Americas favorite rifles. I think I have only seen one bolt issue. Last edited by 1Akshooter; 03/13/18. |
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Re: Bolt disassembly in field conditions jorgeI#1271619303/13/18 | |
deflave Campfire Sage | |
deflave Campfire Sage Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 Likes: 13 | Originally Posted by jorgeI well, not a 700 or an A bolt...or a Weatherby What's so hard about the 700? Dave Originally Posted by Geno67 Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Originally Posted by Judman Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. Originally Posted by KSMITH My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house |
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jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana | |
jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,684 Likes: 15 | Originally Posted by deflave Originally Posted by jorgeI well, not a 700 or an A bolt...or a Weatherby What's so hard about the 700? Dave You need a shoelace, a penny and eye of newt to field strip.... A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…” |
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J jwall Campfire Ranger | |
jwall Campfire Ranger J Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 19,179 | Originally Posted by jorgeI You need a shoelace, a penny and eye of newt to field strip.... So you have to go home to get a shoelace & a penny ? "Dogger Which begs the question: which rifles have bolts that can be stripped in the field to get them into the hunt again, and [/b]which must wait til you get home?"[b] B T W - Since 1972 -- I have never needed to field strip a bolt --- maybe a moot question. Jerry jwall- *** 3100 guy*** A Flat Trajectory is Never a Handicap Speed is Trajectory's Friend !! |
Re: Bolt disassembly in field conditions jwall#1271628803/13/18 | |
jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana | |
jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,684 Likes: 15 | Originally Posted by jwall Originally Posted by jorgeI You need a shoelace, a penny and eye of newt to field strip.... So you have to go home to get a shoelace & a penny ? "Dogger Which begs the question: which rifles have bolts that can be stripped in the field to get them into the hunt again, and [/b]which must wait til you get home?"[b] B T W - Since 1972 -- I have never needed to field strip a bolt --- maybe a moot question. Jerry The 700 kool-aid is addictive... But yes, I wear velcro and no shoe laces (I'm old) and have no use for pennies, other than to make front sights for Sharps rifles A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…” |
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J jwall Campfire Ranger | |
jwall Campfire Ranger J Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 19,179 | Jorge, I've been drinking 700 since 1976. It's so smooooth. Jerry jwall- *** 3100 guy*** A Flat Trajectory is Never a Handicap Speed is Trajectory's Friend !! |
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P plainsman456 Campfire Outfitter | |
plainsman456 Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 11,944 | Mauser 98 And no need for spare parts they don't break. |
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R rovert Campfire Regular | |
rovert Campfire Regular R Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 772 | The only rifle I've ever seen fail to fire during a hunt was a 700. Field stripping and cleaning the spring would have solved the issue. So would have preventative disassembly and cleaning periodically in the 30 years leading up to the failure. |
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Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 8,753 Likes: 3 T TBREW401 Campfire Outfitter | |
TBREW401 Campfire Outfitter T Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 8,753 Likes: 3 | Mauser 98 Oh yeah, and, the bolt handle won't break off! Last edited by TBREW401; 03/13/18. |
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